Once they see it on an U/S, I think it becomes a clinical pregnancy. It was a chemical pregnancy. Genetic testing was normal. They also reported the number ofblastsbiopsied. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. Hi all, To do PGT-A, a sample of cells (a biopsy) is taken from the embryo and is submitted for DNA testing in a separate lab. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). The RE I ended up with said "lets fight for this!" Praying you did and thank you for the advice! Did our first FET in October with a supposedly PGT normal embryo. IVF/ICSI #3 another chemical with two frozen embryos left over. MENT I got a natural BFP at 34yo with an FSH of 38 and had no issues with my pregnancy. I know this is an incredibly hard time and it's a tough decision- best of luck to you- don't give up hope. We have one (and only one) 4bb PGS normal embryo. One thing Ive definitely learned from all of this is to trust my gut instinct. Medication wise other than the standard progesterone and estrogen and prenatal I also did take aspirin 81mg. History He provides weekly summaries of the latest IVF research and posts on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok regularly. We are at a loss as both embryos transferred (one late last year and one last month) were PGS normal. They also provided information for the chance of getting no euploids per cycle: So as age increases, the chances of getting a euploid embryo drop. I pay completely out of pocket for everything so the added expense was not something I wasnt looking forward to, but Im happy I went through with it. Im surprised there are still doctors out there who do not bring up this protocol. I've read that in a non-IVF pregnancy, the rate of miscarriage is about 21.3% between weeks 5 and 6. Reminder: I have an integrated glossary in the text (terms are underlined with a dotted black line, and when you tap on it a window will pop up with the definition). Miscarriage is defined as a loss between clinical pregnancy (detection of a gestational sac or heartbeat) and 20 weeks of gestation. What are the differences between the two tests? But what about the women who didnt get blasts? Looking for anyone who has had recurrent chemical pregnancies and then found success. I just looked briefly online and saw mixed reviews about embryos being damaged when shipped. But if you dont like the extra meds you could talk with your current or new clinic about not doing it and get their thoughts on it. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. For this group theyll have a better idea of what to expect. You cant compare the per retrieval and per transfer stats against each other directly. Thats a great suggestion, I will definitely ask my dr about doing an ERA. I had a chemical pregnancy with my first FET. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. Good luck and dont give up on hope yet! Well start with euploids, then mosaics, and end with fully aneuploid embryos. And demand that my lining be over 8 before I allow another transfer to occur? Is there any reasoning behind this- is it due to poor egg quality, poor sperm quality, or both? My result came with a high risk, 1 in 11 chances of the baby having Down Syndrome. We transferred our only day 6/PGS tested Euploid embryo on December 10,2020. After my negative, we did ERA and had a hysteroscopy to correct a small septum. Did you get your BFP on IVF post the antibiotics or naturally? Preimplantation genetic testing (PGT) is the process of testing embryos created during in vitro fertilization (IVF) to determine the presence of genetic abnormalities that can lead to pregnancy complications, birth defects, congenital disease and/or miscarriage. Kelly. Im absolutely going to ask for biopsy and check for endometritis. sd84. I ended up taking Lovenox and Prednisone and doing an endometrial scratch biopsy and ERA. My FET is at the beginning of June so hoping that with this adjustment, a better outcome will occurs. And my RE is kind of resistant to doing extra tests before I have a second failure, which I find a little crazy. These stats are based off many people, so your results may not exactly hit the average. He was surprised my doctor was doing a Receptiva test naturally, without medication, since the idea is to simulate the same environment of a transfer, and was also surprised that my doctor had done a 5-day-post-retrieval-transfer in the first place. It's an autoimmune blood clotting disorder that can cause recurrent miscarriage. My RE had said shes usually very cautious when it comes to sending embryos out for PGS testing only because the process can sometimes compromise the embryo itself. Are you sure you want to block this member? If youre confused about the terminology youll see coming up, check my post on understanding PGS testing results. I'm curious if this might have something to do with it. Seems to work for many, many women. Best of luck to you!! In this post well learn more about IVF with PGS success rates for euploid embryos. We found out yesterday we were having a chemical pregnancy, my second beta didnt double. Going into my second round of IVF I was doubting anything would work. I did not do an ERA although I know a lot of people who have and have gathered helpful info from it. Aww happy your second round worked! To perform the biopsy, an embryologist removes 2-10 cells from the precursor placenta cells of the blastocyst embryo, called the trophectoderm. A chemical pregnancy is an early pregnancy loss before ultrasounds can detect a fetus. Segmental aneuploids: the main source for PGT-A false positives? This is my second failure of a PGS tested embryo, and the first on this immune suppressing protocol. thank you for sharing! Your experience gives me hope so thank you for sharing , - Estradiol patches and to apply 4 of them and change them every 2 days, - progesterone 200mg suppository morning and evening. Talk about adjusting meds? Im so confused as my RE says that morphology doesnt matter if theyre euploid. Check here for the full. I also want to add low dose prednisone and lovenox - I have heard from so many of you that even IF no autoimmune issues are found that this combo helps. Learn more about, Learn About What to Expect's Pregnancy & Baby App. Capalbo et al. I actually didn't do acupuncture the second cycle, but I was in great shape. This is exactly what I had! Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). She was also concerned with the previous doctors aggressive surgery protocols, and my age was also a factor. As for boosting chances with two put back it should not be the trick. All the comments on here seem pretty helpful already. I just received news today that out of our 14 blastocysts only 4 passed pgs and 1 with no result that we are retesting. I want to be exhaustive in testing to get to the bottom of the issue, but I certainly don't want to waste time/money on tests we don't need. I went into my second egg retrieval and got less eggs than the first time around. The thing we did differently for this one was adding an antihistamine protocol. Live birth rate differences are inconsistent and therefore inconclusive. When questioned as to why nothing was working, his response was sometimes it just doesnt happen and we dont know why. They found that: If you want to read my summary of this paper, check here. We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. If you haven't had multiple losses/failed attempts feel free to comment but please be empathetic when doing so. Im currently 17 weeks from another FET. I have however done Intralipid Infusions and taken Neupogen beginning a week before transfer for Autoimmune protocol (although Ive never actually been tested for Autoimmune disorder). Im willing to try anything :) thanks for sharing! A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. How did your pregnancy turn out? Patients often hear "PGS-normal embryos have a 60 - 70% success rate." But that is on a per-transfer basis. IVF is a numbers game. Thank you TXtoCA, Im definitely planning to make changes. Has anyone had a similar experience but had a viable pregnancy. I know Ive had issues with my lining but for each of the chemical pregnancies we were able to get my lining to at least 8mm with a mixture of puregon and cetrotide injections, instead of estrace, as well as PRPs. So maybe youve had a cycle and your embryos are frozen, and now you want them biopsied. Objective: To determine whether undetected aneuploidy contributes to pregnancy loss after transfer of euploid embryos that have undergone array comparative genomic hybridization (aCGH). In this case the clinic will need to: So the embryo would have to go through multiple rounds of freezing/thawing/biopsy, and this might have an impact on its potential. I had a PGT normal day 7 embryo that unfortunately resulted in a chemical. About 7 months later I transferred a day 7. Then another IVF/ICSI but nothing to transfer-- my doctor switched up my meds which was a bad idea obviously. For more background info, check out my post onPGS Testing. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. The good thing is she did not see any scar tissue during the biopsy, and the inflammation had completely cleared up. We got to see and hear the heartbeat yesterday. Is it because they were early blastocysts? I have had MENTS one BFN and one chemical on untested embryos on my first round of IVF (I'm 34). An embryo with more or fewer than 23 chromosome pairs may be at increased risk of miscarriage or certain genetic disorders. Best of luck! Why did I miscarry a normal embryo? I hope the ERA works too. I feel so lucky that I found this community. I find the live birth rates by transfer versus by retrieval data very interesting. Some are faster, and some are slower. Hi everyone. Every positive thing helps! (The embryo split!) (The embryo split!) Took THREE rounds of antibiotics for mine to clear. In large scale Double Blind Randomized Control Trials (the best method for medical protocol research) PGT did not increase your chances of pregnancy, except in some scenarios. I have to say that I'm not 100% sure I needed any of the extra things we did- but I wanted to try whatever I could and these things couldn't hurt. I was doing yoga and walking everyday and meditating. I'm super bummed about it being a chemical, but I still feel like progress was made because this was my first positive pregnancy test EVER. However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. Embryos with the right number of chromosomes are called euploid and may have a higher chance of making a pregnancy, although the evidence for this is controversial. MENTS THROUGHOUT MENTS With both transfers I did estrogen tablets, progesterone in oil shots, blood thinner shots and low dose aspirin. If it were me and it was my last embryo I would definitely ask about (possibly even push for) immune protocol and the ERA just to cover all my bases. Best of luck to you. I think whats missing is the success rates for transfers of non PGS tested embryos. If your window is off I would think that could cause chemical pregnancies because the embryo would have a hard time implanting. The psychologist who ran the group, who also happened to be an RE at my fertility clinic, explained that sometimes you have a seemingly perfect embryo, perfect uterine lining, and the FET just fails. I didnt realize you could transfer your embryos to another clinic. Some of the reasons quoted weren't even about the patient: it could have been damaged during the biopsy or thaw process in the lab, the transfer process could have been off, there's a margin of error with the testing itself, pgs doesn't tell us everything about an embryo, etc. Do you think it's worth it as last time I had a medicated cycle and it was a . Best of luck to you. Consult with your doctor before making any treatment changes. My husbands sperm analysis was only very slightly abnormal. I actually didnt have embryos to bring with me when we switched. Obviously, when we look at transfer rates with PGS tested embryos, we are not including all the women who didnt have anything to transfer. I am terrified he wont implant. That makes me feel better about transferring to another clinic, which Im thinking might be the best bet at this point! (2014)found no difference inongoing pregnancybetween grades (about 50% for each category). Then she went into all of the horrible statistics with twin pregnancy. 4 PGT-M and PGT-A vs. Prenatal Testing Viotti et al. Im so sorry to hear about your losses but so happy with your current miracle. I remember you from another post I made about only having 2 eggs fertilized you were so kind to share your story. My first, was a success. Ive done 4 transfers now with PGS tested embryos - the first failed and the last 3 resulted in chemical pregnancies. You can check out my summary of the study here. I will look into this and mention to my doctor :) Ive been taking 10mg of prednisone but Ive never taken Lovenex. Hoping to hear from them soon . But after this chemical pregnancy from our PGS embryo, I have a gut feeling there is something else at play and am pushing my doctor for additional testing before another transfer since we only have 3 embryos left after 2 IVF cycles. We put both in and im currently 8weeks pregnant. I also did Neupogen but they still wanted to test for autoimmune disorders. In my case, my miscarriage was potentially caused by a partial uterine septate that my doctor identified via sonohystergram and removed via hysteroscopy. Or they did but they were all aneuploid? Be sure to read the next two sections to get an idea of how grades and growth rates (Day 5, 6, 7) affect IVF with PGS success rates, as well as this section further down. I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm 37 years old, and I just had a chemical pregnancy with a PGS-tested embryo. I honestly wish I had but thats all hindsight now knowing what I knew. Reminder: I have an integrated glossary in the text (terms are underlined with a dotted black line, and when you tap on it a window will pop up with the definition). For <37, this was about 5, for 37-40 about 4, and for >40 about 3 (so older women tend to produce fewerblasts). He earned his MSc in 2012 for his research on inflammation and lung cancerand started Remembryo in 2018 to help people understand the evidence behind common IVF topics. We are so happy about that, we just want this one to be the one. This test can identify chromosomally normal embryos, which increase the chances of a healthy pregnancy. You can check out my summary of the study here.. Of the 414 blastocysts transferred: 312 were euploid, 73.1% had a clinical pregnancy and 7.2% miscarried; 102 were aneuploid, 23.5% had a clinical pregnancy and . PGT-A is generally recommended for women >35, and the majority of cycles in the US in 2020 were for women >35 (62%). After the first, we did the era and added the endo scratch. LBR was associated with morphologic parameters of euploid blastocysts, especially in women <30 years old. We had PGS/PGD testing and an ERA. But I do have a friend who had 1 embryo shipped from Utah to California for an FET and it was a different clinic that handled the FET. The test uses an algorythm and brings together age (in my case 44), the nuchal measurement of the foetus (which was normal) and the values of PAPP-A and Beta HCG from a blood test. I know that every cycle + embryo is different, but it's so hard to not compare cycles. Good luck! This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. For your second question, Ill be doing an Embryo News this week that explains a study that compares non-PGS vs PGS tested embryos. My questions is only 28% of our blastocysts passed pgs testing which is quite low from what is predicted for those under 35. While those are great odds, sometimes the FET fails. It took me 3 fresh + 3 frozen but I finally did get my baby. PGS enhances the success of IVF but not in all cases; the success rates vary by age. Interestingly enough my protocol remained the same between my chemical FET and the successful one. And congrats on your little girl! Thank you Its so hard when youre paying yet your doctor doesnt think its needed. Best of luck to you. Thought just because your embryo iseuploidthat grades dont matter anymore? . Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. Check here for the full glossary (please excuse the repeated terms!). Reminder: I have an integrated glossary in the text (terms are underlined with a dotted black line, and when you tap on it a window will pop up with the definition). It kind of makes me wonder what they get out of their alternative recommendations. Im trying not to fixate on my last embryo being a day 7. It worked and now I'm 24 weeks pregnant with twins! I am curious to hear other peoples experiences, especially with 6 days blasts. TTC 3 years Did your RE have you take anything other than progesterone and estrogen and aspirin? He earned his MSc in 2012 for his research on inflammation and lung cancerand started Remembryo in 2018 to help people understand the evidence behind common IVF topics. Go figure, right?! Question about blastocysts and PGS testing - we got 12 eggs / 7 mature / 7 fertilized with ICSI and 2 grew to 6 days. But Im wondering how those numbers have changed with other advancements in infertility medicine. Alternatively you can check out my websites tag for mosaic embryos here. All 3 embryos made it to day 5 blastocyst on the 6th day we did pgs testing. I got my period or should I say we officially begun to miscarry on Saturday so I did call them with our Day 1. See the chart below from the CDC (2016 data): In this post well look at the different miscarriage rates that all these types of PGT-A tested embryos have. Mosaic embryos can be either low- or high . I am just torn. We have our lining check on Friday. I had a chemical with a PGS embryo in October. (2017)had similar results to above (aCGH, women <35): Capalbo et al. Good luck and feel free to PM me. After multiple necessary hysteroscopies, multiple retrievals, multiplefailed transfers, and 2 chemical pregnancies, I finally decided to get a 2nd opinion. Whitney et al. Im going to talk to my dr about getting this test done.
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